Do spells stack? - Guild Wars Forums

Emma Panzerbergen · May 19, 2009, 11:49 PM // 23:49

If two elementalists cast something like Savannah Heat on the same target simultaneously, or if one casts one second after the other, in either situation will the target be affected by two ongoing Savannah Heats at the same time?

idicious · May 20, 2009, 12:00 AM // 00:00

Yes, though 2 the same hexes on a target won't stack, some with conditions.

Mr. G · May 20, 2009, 12:20 AM // 00:20

Savannah heat is an AoE spell, technically it effects the area not the person. Spells that target a person with a duration (such and enchantments or hexes) do not stack.

majikmajikmajik · May 20, 2009, 03:02 AM // 03:02

correct me if im wrong but.....
conditions,hexes, armor enchancing buffs(above +24), and enchantments dont stack. anything else is stackable as far as damage and healing is concerned or else there would be no such thing as a spike.

subarucar · May 20, 2009, 03:22 AM // 03:22

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Originally Posted by majikmajikmajik

correct me if im wrong but.....
conditions,hexes, armor enchancing buffs(above +24), and enchantments dont stack. anything else is stackable as far as damage and healing is concerned or else there would be no such thing as a spike.

Actualy there would still be spikes, ive seen many, many spikes where there are no multiple copies of spells/skills used.

Archress Shayleigh · May 20, 2009, 04:04 AM // 04:04

yeah... XP totally

Qing Guang · May 20, 2009, 05:45 AM // 05:45

As an Echo nuker, I can tell you from experience (unless I've been completely confused) that yes, basic damage spells stack, whether instant or DoT. However, most other things do not stack when two identical versions are present:
-Identical enchantments don't stack; re-casting will instead renew the duration.
-Identical hexes don't stack; see above.
-Identical hexes don't stack; see above.
In addition, some non-identical things don't stack:
-Degen/regen don't stack above 10 pips, effectively (though if you have something doing 11 pips of regen and 2 pips of degen you will end up with 9 pips of regen - it does factor in in these cases)
-Armor buffs don't stack over +25 OVER MULTIPLE SKILLS. However, if one skill raises the armor over that amount (Save Yourselves! is a good example), the full increase will apply.
-Speed buffs/debuffs don't stack over 33% OVER MULTIPLE SKILLS; see above.
-Stances don't stack; one will overwrite the other.
-Weapon Spells don't stack; see above.
-Item Spells don't stack; see above.
-Theoretically, Forms don't stack, but the only time this would apply is when you're capping skills as all Forms are elite.

...and I think that's everything.

glacialphoenix · May 20, 2009, 06:02 AM // 06:02

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Originally Posted by Qing Guang

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And to add on to that - glyphs don't stack. One will overwrite the other.

shillo · May 20, 2009, 11:09 AM // 11:09

Another addition to the list: knockdowns don't stack. If a knocked-down target would be knocked down again, the second KD is completely ignored (and will not add to the duration of the first KD).

If I recall correctly, Meteor Shower when it's affected by +1 to knockdown duration from Earthbind is iffy - as it KDs precisely every 3 seconds for 3 seconds, subsequent KDs sometimes do trigger and sometimes don't.

Arduin · May 20, 2009, 11:17 AM // 11:17

Yet if the caster would recieve a benefit form hexing a foe, the 'benefits' do stack.

Like if three people all cast [Assassin's Promise] on the same foe, and that foe dies, all three people will recieve the Energy gain and Skill recharge.

Neo Atomisk · May 20, 2009, 11:53 AM // 11:53

Some Hexes do actually stack, like Asuran Scan or Assassin's Promise.

Qing Guang · May 21, 2009, 12:56 AM // 00:56

@glacialphoenix: Oh, thanks, I forgot that one. Rarely use glyphs...

@Arduinna and Neo: Yeah, so I should clarify: direct negative effects from hexes on foes don't stack. But hexes that indirectly affect a foe by helping the caster do stack on a single target, so as has been said, if 3 people cast, say, Asuran Scan on one foe, each one does +damage against that foe.

_Nihilist_ · May 21, 2009, 01:34 AM // 01:34

Stacking is sorta kinda iffy. Some things do, some things don't, some things do - but not fully...

I've seen explanations of what happens when 2 or 3 Players/Heroes use Monk Bond Enchantments on the same Party Member - again, it will only show one copy of the Bond on the Party Member, but the Players/Heroes that have cast will still show that they are maintaining each of their Bonds - and the effects will be spread.

So yea, sorta kinda iffy on a few...

May 19, 2009, 11:49 PM // 23:49	#1
Emma Panzerbergen Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2009 Profession: A/E	Do spells stack? If two elementalists cast something like Savannah Heat on the same target simultaneously, or if one casts one second after the other, in either situation will the target be affected by two ongoing Savannah Heats at the same time?

May 20, 2009, 11:09 AM // 11:09	#9
shillo Academy Page Join Date: Sep 2006	Another addition to the list: knockdowns don't stack. If a knocked-down target would be knocked down again, the second KD is completely ignored (and will not add to the duration of the first KD). If I recall correctly, Meteor Shower when it's affected by +1 to knockdown duration from Earthbind is iffy - as it KDs precisely every 3 seconds for 3 seconds, subsequent KDs sometimes do trigger and sometimes don't. Last edited by shillo; May 20, 2009 at 11:13 AM // 11:13..

May 21, 2009, 01:34 AM // 01:34	#13
_Nihilist_ Will Bull's Strike for $! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Isle of the Dead	Stacking is sorta kinda iffy. Some things do, some things don't, some things do - but not fully... I've seen explanations of what happens when 2 or 3 Players/Heroes use Monk Bond Enchantments on the same Party Member - again, it will only show one copy of the Bond on the Party Member, but the Players/Heroes that have cast will still show that they are maintaining each of their Bonds - and the effects will be spread. So yea, sorta kinda iffy on a few... __________________ Warrior for Hire

May 20, 2009, 12:00 AM // 00:00	#2
idicious Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Holland Guild: LoD Profession: P/W	Yes, though 2 the same hexes on a target won't stack, some with conditions.

May 20, 2009, 12:20 AM // 00:20	#3
Mr. G Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: S. Wales Profession: Mo/Me	Savannah heat is an AoE spell, technically it effects the area not the person. Spells that target a person with a duration (such and enchantments or hexes) do not stack.

May 20, 2009, 03:02 AM // 03:02	#4
majikmajikmajik Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: SATown~Tx Guild: Guild Hopper! Profession: R/	correct me if im wrong but..... conditions,hexes, armor enchancing buffs(above +24), and enchantments dont stack. anything else is stackable as far as damage and healing is concerned or else there would be no such thing as a spike.

May 20, 2009, 04:04 AM // 04:04	#6
Archress Shayleigh Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Guild Hall Profession: R/	yeah... XP totally

May 20, 2009, 05:45 AM // 05:45	#7
Qing Guang Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Guild: Lucid Spirits [LIFE] Profession: N/A	As an Echo nuker, I can tell you from experience (unless I've been completely confused) that yes, basic damage spells stack, whether instant or DoT. However, most other things do not stack when two identical versions are present: -Identical enchantments don't stack; re-casting will instead renew the duration. -Identical hexes don't stack; see above. -Identical hexes don't stack; see above. In addition, some non-identical things don't stack: -Degen/regen don't stack above 10 pips, effectively (though if you have something doing 11 pips of regen and 2 pips of degen you will end up with 9 pips of regen - it does factor in in these cases) -Armor buffs don't stack over +25 OVER MULTIPLE SKILLS. However, if one skill raises the armor over that amount (Save Yourselves! is a good example), the full increase will apply. -Speed buffs/debuffs don't stack over 33% OVER MULTIPLE SKILLS; see above. -Stances don't stack; one will overwrite the other. -Weapon Spells don't stack; see above. -Item Spells don't stack; see above. -Theoretically, Forms don't stack, but the only time this would apply is when you're capping skills as all Forms are elite. ...and I think that's everything.

May 20, 2009, 11:17 AM // 11:17	#10
Arduin Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Netherlands Guild: Limburgse Jagers [LJ] Profession: R/	Yet if the caster would recieve a benefit form hexing a foe, the 'benefits' do stack. Like if three people all cast [Assassin's Promise] on the same foe, and that foe dies, all three people will recieve the Energy gain and Skill recharge.

May 20, 2009, 11:53 AM // 11:53	#11
Neo Atomisk Krytan Explorer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: State College, Pennsylvania, United States Guild: Zealots of Shiverpeak [ZoS] Profession: W/	Some Hexes do actually stack, like Asuran Scan or Assassin's Promise.

May 21, 2009, 12:56 AM // 00:56	#12
Qing Guang Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Guild: Lucid Spirits [LIFE] Profession: N/A	@glacialphoenix: Oh, thanks, I forgot that one. Rarely use glyphs... @Arduinna and Neo: Yeah, so I should clarify: direct negative effects from hexes on foes don't stack. But hexes that indirectly affect a foe by helping the caster do stack on a single target, so as has been said, if 3 people cast, say, Asuran Scan on one foe, each one does +damage against that foe.